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  Favorite Xmas movie?

  by peacefulpete in

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  elf...simply a great movie imo.

  funny, heartwarming and well acted..

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  neat blue dog

  Who's the scrooge that downvoted you Pete?

  Yes I love Elf too, as well as Home Alone, Jingle All the Way and all of the classic sitcom Christmas episodes.
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  An interesting Observation of some Bibles

  by Blotty in

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  2. bible

  first of all, hi, i go by blotty on this website :) i am someone who has a passion for the bible and like to get a as balanced view as i can from the trinitarian and the jw (or unitarian) side - even though i come off as leaning towards one or the other at times, in my opinion they both have merits in certain cases..if this is in the wrong section i apologise - this is just something i found interesting.iv seen online a lot that say the watchtower and tract society "invented" the link between proverbs 8:22 - 30 and jesus (the word).

  yet interestingly some "mainstream" "trinitarian- aimed" translations are cross referencing the following:source:https://www.biblegateway.comprov 8:22 cr rev 3:14niv, gnt,esv, nasb, nasb1995, nasbre, cevprov 8:30 cr john 1:1,2 esv nasbprov 8:30 cr john 1:3esvnasb1995nasb(this list is by no means complete)if this is simply wisdom, why is it referenced with jesus (or the word)?.

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  neat blue dog

  Food for thought, thank you
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  How get out of watchtower?

  by Hellothere in

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  2. experiences

  how do you get out of watchtower?

  am i supposed to write letter to bethel or local congregation telling them i don't want to be a jw anymore?

  how are the steps.

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  neat blue dog

  "How long will you keep limping on two different opinions?" There is no GT as JWs understand it, the org isn't special in history, for good OR for bad, and you should do what's best for YOU and those you care about, whether that involves fading or in fact being open and letting them disfellowship you. But playing their power tripping committee and letters game rarely has any benefit.
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  Request!----Atlantis Do You Have The V.D.M. Questionnaire?

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  atlantis, do you have the v.d.m.

  questionnaire?.

  hi betty:.

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  neat blue dog

  Wow the r&f would never guess the origin of things like this, never even heard of it. Thanks so much for sharing the research!
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  and early judicial committee with Rutherford

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while disfellowshipping was doubled down on and reinforced during the time of raymond franz, it definitely existed before that when needed and fits right in with rutherford's personality.

  here's an account of norman woodworth who left for dawn bible students, and his proto-judicial committee.

  all the modern hallmarks of apostasy trials are there, from the witch-hunt nature to the big all-important gotcha question at the end:.

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  neat blue dog

  Wow - so sad and ever relevant.
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  and early judicial committee with Rutherford

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while disfellowshipping was doubled down on and reinforced during the time of raymond franz, it definitely existed before that when needed and fits right in with rutherford's personality.

  here's an account of norman woodworth who left for dawn bible students, and his proto-judicial committee.

  all the modern hallmarks of apostasy trials are there, from the witch-hunt nature to the big all-important gotcha question at the end:.

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  neat blue dog

  TonisOH:

  Well to be specific this was after Rutherford's takeover. Russell specifically spoke out against an organization and considered individuals from other denominations as being Christians.

  dropoffyourkeylee:

  It's from the Dawn Bible Students magazine's 90th anniversary issue.

  http://www.dawnbible.com/2022/2210-hl.htm
  
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  and early judicial committee with Rutherford

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while disfellowshipping was doubled down on and reinforced during the time of raymond franz, it definitely existed before that when needed and fits right in with rutherford's personality.

  here's an account of norman woodworth who left for dawn bible students, and his proto-judicial committee.

  all the modern hallmarks of apostasy trials are there, from the witch-hunt nature to the big all-important gotcha question at the end:.

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  neat blue dog

  While disfellowshipping was doubled down on and reinforced during the time of Raymond Franz, it definitely existed before that when needed and fits right in with Rutherford's personality. Here's an account of Norman Woodworth who left for Dawn Bible Students, and his proto-judicial committee. All the modern hallmarks of apostasy trials are there, from the witch-hunt nature to the big all-important gotcha question at the end:

  we .... decided to visit some brethren who had left the Society soon after Brother Russell’s death. .... One morning I found a note on my desk instructing me to appear in Brother Rutherford’s office at once. I did so. He asked me if it was true that I had made this certain visit, and I acknowledged the truth. He told me to be back at his office in an hour, and when I returned, I was confronted by the board of directors. ... When asked if I believed that the Lord had an organization, and that the IBSA was that organization, my reply was that I did not believe that any man or any group of men had a monopoly on God’s truth. .... There was no doubt then that to remain .... with this group meant that one had to obey them rather than God.

  He goes on to say that some who knew things weren't right still believed it was the truth and 'waited on Jehovah', a philosophy shared by many PIMI JWs today:

  Some brethren preferred to remain loyal to the IBSA, believing that conditions there were only temporary and things would be made right by God in his own due time and manner.
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  'In Search of Christian Freedom'

  by riblah in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i cross-posted this on reddit:.

  i would love to have a hard copy of this book.

  does anyone know about how to go about persuading the person who has the rights to print a batch?.

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  neat blue dog

  There's no excuse for niche material to not publish on demand nowadays. It's just silly and outdated to do otherwise.
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  I need your help to get out

  by ElMartin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm using google translate, my native language is spanish .

  hola, esta es mi primera publicación en este sitio.

  tengo 22 años, me dediqué a jehová y lo que creo que fue la organización de él a los 18 años.. ai am currently inactive in spiritual activities, which led me to wonder and question if the watchtower has the truth.

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  neat blue dog

  I guarantee you the answer to the UN will be, "Yes, but who else is preaching the good news door to door? Who else teaches the truth about life on earth vs life in heaven?"

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5752455104036864/pimo-reverse-witnessing-samples-presentation-1-earthly-hope

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4999677662461952/pimo-reverse-witnessing-sample-presentation-2-last-days-door-door-preaching
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses 2022 Annual Meeting

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  damn....october 1, 2022 already upon us!

  yesterday's jw annual meeting was held without a word...without any prior mention of it.

  anyone on this forum attend the event supposedly held via zoom?

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  neat blue dog

  Watching this Annual Meeting was like sitting through your worst low budget movie in slow motion!
  The WTBTS has the most unfit Governing Body members for public speakers!

  When I have to watch a video I play it on at least two times speed and can still get the gist. Now hearing them in regular speed just shows how retarded they sound, or think the audience is.